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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorThe Movieman
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I've seen several contributions testing region code on Blu-rays using AnyDVD HD. How is that done?

Edit: Additional Question - I have the Boardwalk Empire Complete Series box set. All of the seasons (1-5) I tested to be region free but the bonus disc is Region A locked. How should the parent profile show? Region A or Region A, B, C?
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I've seen several contributions testing region code on Blu-rays using AnyDVD HD. How is that done?

I do not know AnyDVD HD, but I assume you can set any region code in the software, and then test the Blu-ray discs against it.

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Additional Question - I have the Boardwalk Empire Complete Series box set. All of the seasons (1-5) I tested to be region free but the bonus disc is Region A locked. How should the parent profile show? Region A or Region A, B, C?

Main Feature region code.
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I've seen several contributions testing region code on Blu-rays using AnyDVD HD. How is that done?


AnyDVD HD can often (not always) decode the disc's region after scanning the disc, and you can view it in the "Status" of the program. I've never seen the program give a false positive when double checking it on my multi-region player. If AnyDVD HD can't decode the disc's region, it will usually show in the Status box that the region coding for the disc cannot be determined.
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Problem solved, thanks Katatonia! 
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I've seen several contributions testing region code on Blu-rays using AnyDVD HD. How is that done?

AnyDVD HD can often (not always) decode the disc's region after scanning the disc, and you can view it in the "Status" of the program. I've never seen the program give a false positive when double checking it on my multi-region player. If AnyDVD HD can't decode the disc's region, it will usually show in the Status box that the region coding for the disc cannot be determined.

With DVD, the player queries the disc. With Blu-ray, the disc queries the player.
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I've seen several contributions testing region code on Blu-rays using AnyDVD HD. How is that done?

AnyDVD HD can often (not always) decode the disc's region after scanning the disc, and you can view it in the "Status" of the program. I've never seen the program give a false positive when double checking it on my multi-region player. If AnyDVD HD can't decode the disc's region, it will usually show in the Status box that the region coding for the disc cannot be determined.

With DVD, the player queries the disc. With Blu-ray, the disc queries the player.

And your point is ... ?
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I have the Boardwalk Empire Complete Series box set. All of the seasons (1-5) I tested to be region free but the bonus disc is Region A locked. How should the parent profile show? Region A or Region A, B, C?

If I need a Region A player to view the entire set, I'd list it as Region A. Lowest common denominator. Any child profiles for each of the individual seasons and/or discs that are all-region would get that, of course.
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If I need a Region A player to view the entire set, I'd list it as Region A. Lowest common denominator. Any child profiles for each of the individual seasons and/or discs that are all-region would get that, of course.

While I would agree to LCD if it is a matter of the main-features (e.g. in a movie box-set) I'd really hate to been told I can not play this set in my region-B-player when it is just a bonus disc that is out of line. Maybe note something like that under "Other Features"?
Ah, I was of the same opinion 7 years ago

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I've seen several contributions testing region code on Blu-rays using AnyDVD HD. How is that done?

AnyDVD HD can often (not always) decode the disc's region after scanning the disc, and you can view it in the "Status" of the program. I've never seen the program give a false positive when double checking it on my multi-region player. If AnyDVD HD can't decode the disc's region, it will usually show in the Status box that the region coding for the disc cannot be determined.

With DVD, the player queries the disc. With Blu-ray, the disc queries the player.


AnyDVD HD is not a player, it's a software program.
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Does anyone here have experience with the BDRegion Tray tool, as to how it might help with testing BD regions?

I have AnyDVD HD, which unlocks everything. For BD, I can't tell that it even reports what it thinks the BD is. With DVD it will tell you.

With the BDRegion Tray tool, I was hoping that there might be some way of exiting AnyDVD HD and then using that tool to test for BD region coding.

I can change my Oppo 93's region manually and drag discs upstairs to test them, but that can be pretty tedious, as you must then at least do the change for region B and then C to test all the possibilities.
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The only way to properly test a Blu-Ray's region is to use a region selectable player, then play the disc in it for all three regions and observe the results.

DVD's used a simple method and some scripting for region code enhanced.

Blu-Ray discs can do a lot more including running full blown Java programs which can do pretty much anything when they read the player's region. While there are some known methods and even some simple standards, Blu-Ray developers aren't limited to those; there's no requirement to follow a standard. Hence software not always being able or even accurate in detecting a region.

In AnyDVD's case, it doesn't really "remove" a region from a Blu-Ray. What it does, is insert code with a region that either it determines or that you specify, that will make the disc *always* "think" it is in a player with the specified region. So for example if AnyDVD says "Unable to determine region, please select" and you select "A" then that disc will *always* "think" it is in a region A player, even if it isn't, which will make the disc play in *any* player.

Blu-Rays are able to actually play *different* content or have *different* menus for different regions. So if you use AnyDVD and tell it to remove the region from such a disc and it can't determine the region, you can specify a region and now that disc will *always only* play that region. This can be useful in cases where you might have a disc that is meant for Europe and Japan, so it plays in all regions, but since Japan is region A, playing the disc on a region A player will only show Japanese menus (assuming it must be in Japan). If you select region B, it shows English menus (assuming it must be in the UK). You can copy the disc using AnyDVD, and force it to remove the region while specifying region B. This will give such a disc permanent English menus. (One instance where I know this is the case is the European Blu-Ray season set releases for Lost.)

Sorry for rambling, I tend to do that when regions are brought up. Maybe someone at some point in the future might find it useful. 
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If I need a Region A player to view the entire set, I'd list it as Region A. Lowest common denominator. Any child profiles for each of the individual seasons and/or discs that are all-region would get that, of course.

While I would agree to LCD if it is a matter of the main-features (e.g. in a movie box-set) I'd really hate to been told I can not play this set in my region-B-player when it is just a bonus disc that is out of line. Maybe note something like that under "Other Features"?
Ah, I was of the same opinion 7 years ago

cya, Mithi


I see your point but in the same way I'd hate to buy a set that said it was All region then try to play the bonus disc and be told something I'd paid to see, I couldn't watch... for this reason I agree with T!M... lowest common denominator for all discs in the set.
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Sorry for rambling, I tend to do that when regions are brought up. Maybe someone at some point in the future might find it useful. 

Many thanks. I'm still confused, but at a much higher level than before!
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I've seen several contributions testing region code on Blu-rays using AnyDVD HD. How is that done?

AnyDVD HD can often (not always) decode the disc's region after scanning the disc, and you can view it in the "Status" of the program. I've never seen the program give a false positive when double checking it on my multi-region player. If AnyDVD HD can't decode the disc's region, it will usually show in the Status box that the region coding for the disc cannot be determined.

With DVD, the player queries the disc. With Blu-ray, the disc queries the player.

And your point is ... ?

Generally valid.
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AnyDVD HD is not a player, it's a software program.

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AnyDVD HD is not a player, it's a software program.

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No worries, you already have that covered. 
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