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Ænigma or Aenigma?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorGSyren
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Which is the correct title for Profiler purposes, Ænigma or Aenigma?
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I'd use both titles to keep it findable!

Title: Ænigma
Original Title: Aenigma
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I'd use both titles to keep it findable!

Title: Ænigma
Original Title: Aenigma

Yes. that sounds useful and reasonable. Except ... there is no support in the rules for that. At least I could find no support for "Aenigma" being the original title. There certainly is nothing in the rules about changing the spelling of the original title in order to enhance searchability.
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Quoting AiAustria:
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I'd use both titles to keep it findable!

Title: Ænigma
Original Title: Aenigma

I do this kind of thing locally when I run across them. Not all stuff has to be in the online.
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Quoting GSyren:
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I'd use both titles to keep it findable!

Title: Ænigma
Original Title: Aenigma

Yes. that sounds useful and reasonable. Except ... there is no support in the rules for that. At least I could find no support for "Aenigma" being the original title. There certainly is nothing in the rules about changing the spelling of the original title in order to enhance searchability.





it's not in the rules but Gerri made a statement in a thread pertaining to TV series/child profiles that supersedes the TV series rules that make it easier to sort for a few people, but makes the clt a disaster.
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and the only ones that can make exceptions to the rules is Invelos. We can suggest them... but they have to ok them.

For the online you need to go per the rules and Invelos' clarifications/posts.
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Gerri made a statement in a thread pertaining to TV series/child profiles that supersedes the TV series rules

Forum comments can clarify an ambiguous rule, or offer guidance where a rule is silent, but they do not supersede the rules.

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Gerri made a statement in a thread pertaining to TV series/child profiles that supersedes the TV series rules

Forum comments can clarify an ambiguous rule, or offer guidance where a rule is silent, but they do not supersede the rules.

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I beg to differ. Try contributing TV season child profiles by using the rules, and they will be voted down and declined. I've tried it.

Pete knows what I'm talking about.
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and the only ones that can make exceptions to the rules is Invelos. We can suggest them... but they have to ok them.

For the online you need to go per the rules and Invelos' clarifications/posts.


Sorry for the stupid question, but how does one go about finding all of Invelos' clarifications/posts?

IMHO, these clarifications should find their way into the contribution rules if they are meant to be followed.  After all not everyone can be a DVD Profiler Jedi Master. 

Maybe, it's time for a contributions rules update/rewrite. 
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Up to some years ago, a fellow user collected them here.

Unfortunately he has not been active in recent years.
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I beg to differ. Try contributing TV season child profiles by using the rules, and they will be voted down and declined.

I didn't say that Invelos followed the rules, or that voters followed the rules.

If Ken doesn't want us to contribute TV child profiles that's OK. 

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I contribute a lot of TV show child profiles without a problem.
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I beg to differ. Try contributing TV season child profiles by using the rules, and they will be voted down and declined.

I didn't say that Invelos followed the rules, or that voters followed the rules.

If Ken doesn't want us to contribute TV child profiles that's OK. 

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They will be voted down if they are season child profiles without a UPC of their own. And voting these down is correct per the rules.
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I beg to differ. Try contributing TV season child profiles by using the rules, and they will be voted down and declined.

I didn't say that Invelos followed the rules, or that voters followed the rules.

If Ken doesn't want us to contribute TV child profiles that's OK. 

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They will be voted down if they are season child profiles without a UPC of their own. And voting these down is correct per the rules.


Individual season profiles not the complete series profiles.
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Which is what I was talking about.

From the rules: "In cases where multiple complete TV seasons/series (each with distinct UPC/EAN) are packaged together, the Box-set rules are applied, treating each season/series like a single film - applying the above rules for its individual profile."

The implication is that large boxes containing multiple seasons or complete series cannot have season-level child profiles if these don't have their own UPC. They can only have disc-level child profiles.
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I contribute a lot of TV show child profiles without a problem.



You do, per Gerri's statement and not the rules. I tried changing a season set using the rules exactly as written and you and a few others voted no using Gerri's statement as the reason why. Then in a thread you stated because it would change the way it sorted in a search which was unacceptable to you, even though there is a Sort title field that you could put whatever you need to search the way you wanted.

Personal preference over rules.
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