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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 4,680 |
| | Posted: | | | | When a movie does not have end credits, there is sometimes a small problem.
If the opening credits have cast names in two columns, what is the best way to list them; across and down (the two names in the first row, the two in the second row, etc.) or down and across (first column first, then the second column)?
I see both variants in existing credits, and I accept them as they are. But on a few occasions I have had to enter the credits from scratch, and I just wonder which is the more acceptable method. Or maybe nobody cares? | | | My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users.
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| Registered: February 8, 2011 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 1,220 |
| | Posted: | | | | If there's some kind of alphabetical order I use that, if not I list them column by column. If someone else listed them per row I'm not going to change that unless I can sort them alphabetically. |
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  | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 8,736 |
| | Posted: | | | | If the names within the columns are ordered alphabetically, I'll use that - if not, I use the order in which the names appear on-screen. |
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| Registered: March 20, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,851 |
| | Posted: | | | | When there is just one column I enter the cast from top to bottom, so I do the same thing when there are multiple columns (IOW, I enter the names by row, from top to bottom), unless there is some obvious reason not to, such as if the names are alphabetized by column.
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| Registered: January 21, 2015 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 2,168 |
| | Posted: | | | | If they are not in alphabetical order, I personally use this system:
The two names in the first row, the two in the second row, etc. | | | | "Two days ago, I saw a vehicle that would haul that tanker. You want to get out of here? ...You talk to me." |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,680 |
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 |  Posts: 259 |
| | Posted: | | | | Row by row, because this is the order you have to use when reading them from the screen, you can’t read them column by column. | | | | Markku |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,680 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Pistol Pete: Quote:
Row by row, because this is the order you have to use when reading them from the screen, you can’t read them column by column. Why not? We're talking opening credits. They're not scrolling, the whole thing is displayed at the same time. | | | My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users.
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| T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 8,736 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting GSyren: Quote:
We're talking opening credits. They're not scrolling, the whole thing is displayed at the same time. Okay, but there are plenty of examples where such columns appear in scrolling closing credits as well, and I prefer to treat both examples in a consistent manner. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,680 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
there are plenty of examples where such columns appear in scrolling closing credits as well, and I prefer to treat both examples in a consistent manner. Hm, I've audited a lot of closing credits, and I can't recall seeing dual columns there. But I'm not going to say that I doubt you, because I'm sure you'd prove me wrong in no time at all. So, yes, that's a strong argument for doing it row by row. Thanks T!M. | | | My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users.
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| Registered: February 19, 2012 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 106 |
| | Posted: | | | | I've seen this myself (on opening titles, not closing credits - can't think of a single instance except for lists of stunt people and the like) and I tend to go by column, not row, which is how I read a newspaper, I suppose, so it's what I'm used to.
This doesn't help, I know.
I'm with Gamemaster; if there's some sort of clear alphabetical order, I'll follow that. If not, I'll go column by column. |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 5,715 |
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If alphabetically listed, then I go by it
If there is a graphical hint (different spacing between lines, floating lines, ...) I go by lines/rows
If there is a conclusion throughout the web about the most important cast (or a web presence of the studio/distributor), I use the order (row/column) to match this sorting as close as possible
If there is no clue, I go by line/row | | | | Complete list of Common Names • A good point for starting with Headshots (and v11.1) |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,680 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting AlunH: Quote:
I tend to go by column, not row, which is how I read a newspaper, I suppose And that's a good argument as well. Thanks Alun! So, no consensus? What a shocker!  Well, at least it reinforces my thought that there is no reason to change any existing order (except possibly if there is an alphabetical order and the existing entry goes against it). Thanks all! | | | My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users.
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,749 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting AiAustria: Quote:
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If alphabetically listed, then I go by it
If there is a graphical hint (different spacing between lines, floating lines, ...) I go by lines/rows
If there is a conclusion throughout the web about the most important cast (or a web presence of the studio/distributor), I use the order (row/column) to match this sorting as close as possible
If there is no clue, I go by line/row What he said. | | | | Marty - Registered July 10, 2004, User since 2002. |
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| Registered: October 4, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 330 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting GSyren: Quote:
When a movie does not have end credits, there is sometimes a small problem.
If the opening credits have cast names in two columns, what is the best way to list them; across and down (the two names in the first row, the two in the second row, etc.) or down and across (first column first, then the second column)?
I see both variants in existing credits, and I accept them as they are. But on a few occasions I have had to enter the credits from scratch, and I just wonder which is the more acceptable method. Or maybe nobody cares? This is a very common occurrence with songs listed in a movie as well. |
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| Registered: June 21, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,621 |
| | Posted: | | | | Alphabetical if listed that way, otherwise column by column.
But a self-rule I tend to go by (and no one has said anything either way as most of my audits are low to no budget horror releases maybe 2 other people own, often just a profile from release info with no voters) is this:
If the column is in a scroll and doesn't all fit on the screen at any one time, then I go row by row. I'm not rewinding when auditing/profiling! |
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