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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Yep, this is definitely going to destroy the English language.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 5,734 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
For titles in the English language, the Capitalization Tool in the contribution rules (on this page) gives you the answer. But the title is Ride with the Devil on Blu-ray.com. | | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 5,734 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting SwissFilm: Quote:
After the Invelos Capitalization Tool
Ride With the Devil But the title is Ride with the Devil on The Movie Database. | | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] |
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| Registered: June 20, 2007 |  Posts: 85 |
| | Posted: | | | | If i open up a webpage and write the title there as RIDe wiTH thE DeViL would you post that as an example then as well?
Especially after it got already explained why it is written in a certain way a few posts above? |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,745 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting bbbbb: Quote:
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After the Invelos Capitalization Tool
Ride With the Devil
But the title is Ride with the Devil on The Movie Database. I just farted and that had more substance than your "contributions" to this forum. | | | Karsten
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | I stopped worrying about things like that since the introduction of profile locks.  | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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| Registered: September 18, 2008 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 2,650 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting iPatsa: Quote:
I stopped worrying about things like that since the introduction of profile locks.
I have all my titles locked, but I'll still vote no to stupidity. |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 1,639 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
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What does the cover say?
Thankfully, that doesn't matter. For titles in the English language, the Capitalization Tool in the contribution rules (on this page) gives you the answer.
But the production studio (Universal) and the distributor (Criterion) disagree. Both list the title as "Ride with the Devil".
It doesn't matter what the studio or the distributor list it as. The rule is 100% clear on this point. For contribution purposes, we use what is generated by the capitalization tool. I'm not arguing that the rule isn't clear, but that rule is based on the Associate Press style which likes to capitalize prepositions with four or more letters. The MLA and Chicago styles don't capitalize these words. |
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| Registered: March 20, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,851 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting bbbbb: Quote:
But the title is Ride with the Devil on Wikipedia. Then I highly recommend you spend your online time on Wikipedia and IMDB and stop wasting it here. You'll be a much happier person. --------------- | | | | Last edited: by scotthm |
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | ... and, more importantly, wasting our time as well! | | | | Last edited: by dee1959jay |
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  | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 8,736 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting samuelrichardscott: Quote:
I'll still vote no to stupidity. That would be a blatant abuse of the voting privilege. It's perfectly fine to disagree with a certain rule - I personally disagree with a *lot* of them - but it's decidedly not fine to use the voting system to voice that disapproval. So I'll point that out whenever I see it, and I would hope that Invelos deals with that in an appropriate manner. Quoting the contribution rules: Quote:
If a user is following the Contribution Rules and his/her data is accurate, and the contribution replaces data which is inaccurate or violates these Contribution Rules, a "No" vote is considered an abuse of the voting privilege and should be avoided when possible. | | | | Last edited: by T!M |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 5,734 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Wolfpig: Quote:
If i open up a webpage and write the title there as RIDe wiTH thE DeViL would you post that as an example then as well? Yes, as a bad example. What capitalization standard are you using? | | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | For the online database it is capitalized. In my local it isn't since it is simply bad form. Have no idea where AP came up with a rule that all words over three letters should be capitalized (it should be over four letters), but that's the standard Ken adopted, even if it is wrong. | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: September 18, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,650 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
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I'll still vote no to stupidity.
That would be a blatant abuse of the voting privilege. It's perfectly fine to disagree with a certain rule - I personally disagree with a *lot* of them - but it's decidedly not fine to use the voting system to voice that disapproval. So I'll point that out whenever I see it, and I would hope that Invelos deals with that in an appropriate manner.
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If a user is following the Contribution Rules and his/her data is accurate, and the contribution replaces data which is inaccurate or violates these Contribution Rules, a "No" vote is considered an abuse of the voting privilege and should be avoided when possible. That's fine. My no votes are not personal at anyone, but I can't bring myself to vote yes, or even neutral on something which is inherently wrong. |
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| Registered: March 20, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,851 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting samuelrichardscott: Quote:
I can't bring myself to vote yes, or even neutral on something which is inherently wrong. If you cannot stop yourself from voting altogether then you have control issues. It gives one much more peace of mind when one gives up worrying about whether the online database is "right" or "wrong". --------------- |
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| Registered: December 10, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,004 |
| | Posted: | | | | Different style guides have different views of four-letter prepositions. Invelos picked one and is just sticking with it. |
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