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Registered: March 14, 2007
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Come and join me in reading the updated rules.

Edit: Bummer... It's just: Clarification to birth year rule added.
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Enter birth years only when necessary to differentate between two actors with the same name. When submitting a contribution that adds a birth year to one or more credits, list justification in the contribution notes.

Ooh, "justification". A new word for the rules.
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glad to see this addition to the rules!
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Quoting m.cellophane:
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Enter birth years only when necessary to differentate between two actors with the same name. When submitting a contribution that adds a birth year to one or more credits, list justification in the contribution notes.

Ooh, "justification". A new word for the rules.


Is that the same as 'documentation'? 
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Quoting Unicus69:
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Is that the same as 'documentation'? 

My take on it is:

Justification "a reason, fact, circumstance, or explanation that justifies or defends"

And based on that, if you say something like "I'm adding a birth year of 1970 to Joe Smith because there is another actor with this same name...", that would be justification.

Saying "I'm adding a birth year of 1970 to Joe Smith because he's my favorite actor" is not justification.

IMO. 
...James

"People fake a lot of human interactions, but I feel like I fake them all, and I fake them very well. That’s my burden, I guess." ~ Dexter Morgan
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Yeah, but is that justice?
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Quoting m.cellophane:
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Is that the same as 'documentation'? 

My take on it is:

Justification "a reason, fact, circumstance, or explanation that justifies or defends"


James, you defined a word by using the word in the definition. 

But I agree with your premise and add another example:

"Added birth year to Joe Smith (1970) because I found out his birth date." would NOT be justification.
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Or..."Added birth year to Joe Smith (1970) because he has the same birthdate as mine." would NOT be justification.
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Or..."Added birth year to Joe Smith (1970) because he has the same birthdate as mine." would NOT be justification.


LOL, I was thinking that also when I was posting the other.
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I'll just be inserting this into my contribution notes.

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justification...

Left.
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James, you defined a word by using the word in the definition. 

I just repeated the first definition from the Dictionary.com page that I linked.

...James

"People fake a lot of human interactions, but I feel like I fake them all, and I fake them very well. That’s my burden, I guess." ~ Dexter Morgan
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How do we handle a situation where there is already a birthdate attached to a person in the database?  I submitted cast/crew information for "Son of Frankenstein / Ghost of Frankenstein" where the birth date was already there.  I have received a no vote asking for justification for adding the birth year.  Since I did not place the birth dates there, I have no idea whether they were justified by whomever submitted them with another title. In some cases, I have no other titles in my collection with these people credited. Removing them may be an error.

I have personally only added the birth year to one actress -- Diana Lewis (1915), credited in a Marx Brothers film.  I justified this in the contribution, mentioning that there is another Diana Lewis credited in the 1976 film "Rocky".  That Diana Lewis is an African-American woman who's been working as a TV news anchor at WXYZ-TV in Detroit for the past 30 years.  Now, if another person tries to contribute a different film with Diana Lewis (1915) and is asked to remove the birth year because he/she cannot provide justification (and has no way of knowing about my justification), that can mess up the profiles for the Marx Brothers film I submitted.
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smerryfield, I assume you downloaded the Birth Year with another profile and it is now about to get spread in the main database...

While currently that is a tough call, the new rule calls for "justification". Not sure I would keep trace of that (I probably won't ), but the first place to look should be the Contribution Notes of the profile where the Birth Year came from...

As I indicated though, we may not remember when and with which profile the Birth Year came to our local database, so it is indeed a legit question. The more and more birth years get added, when contributing to other profiles we'll have to follow the trace and note all the justifications....?
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