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Cover Scans Rule Clarification
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...Not identical. His head is cut off near the top of back scan, and not so on the Slip Cover's back...[/i]

that is important not?
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...Not identical. His head is cut off near the top of back scan, and not so on the Slip Cover's back...[/i]

that is important not?

No, because it was trimmed to fit onto a keep case and the trim is about 1/8 of an inch. Not enough for a decline. Now if the contributor had cut more off in editing, then yes.
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The rules say, "If, however, the Slipcase is reflective, and the inner cover art is identical, use the Keep Case art to scan, as it will give a better quality image."
you are forgetting one thing it is marked in red by me. You can only use the inner cover if they are identical!


You are correct, I left out that part.  What I meant to say was, "That rule tells us to use the Keep Case art whenever the Slipcase is reflective and identical."

That is what it said in my head.  For some reason it didn't make it to my fingers. 
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I (could) agree with what you are saying.
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Edit: Gerri pretty much cleared this up I think...
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This is the rule:

"If a DVD is packaged in a keep case, within a slipcase of some kind, scan the Cover Images from the outer slipcase. If, however, the Slipcase is reflective, and the inner cover art is identical, use the Keep Case art to scan, as it will give a better quality image. "

As a screener, I can tell you that if someone scans a reflective cover and it looks significantly worse than what it should and the voters voice that opinion (not saying that their opinion is the overriding factor, just that it factors into the decision), then chances are I would not approve it over a good quality scan of the keep case art. And the alternative is also true. If someone scans a reflective cover and it looks reasonably good and there are alot of positive comments for it, then chances are I would approve it.

As for the argument for what makes it identical, in my mind, a cutout for the UPC alone would not make them not identical nor would it being cropped differently. There is a bit of gray here, and this is another situation where I would look to the voters. This is also a case to be very specific in your reasons for voting no or yes.

In both of your examples:
"Rear cover slip case has cutout so is not identical to keepcase ....
...Not identical. His head is cut off near the top of back scan, and not so on the Slip Cover's back..."

I would not consider these to be valid reasons for saying that the keep case and slip case are not identical.

-Gerri
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Okay, thanks for posting the clarification Gerri. Now we know better what "identical" means in the rule.
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Yes, thanks - again! - for that clarification. You should consider changing your username to "the voice of reason"...    Anyway, your recent posts in these recurring debates are highly appreciated - keep going!
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Gunnar:

Essentially or virtuallly the same is not the same. Bill Clinton would love you to death. Sometimes the difference can be very subtle but it is a DIFFERENCE.

Skipo

As GSyren has pointed out already, there is always a difference between a reflective slip case and a non reflective cover. At least the reflectivity is different.

EDIT: Thanks to Gerri for clearing this up.
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Gerri, thanks for the clarification. I speaking only for myself, if I have a scan up for consideration and someone else has the same scan (or keepcase art scan) I will always vote neutral on the other persons scan this avoids a conflict of inetrest so to speak. I have seen scans voted down for some wierd reasons.

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Yes, thanks - again! - for that clarification. You should consider changing your username to "the voice of reason"...    Anyway, your recent posts in these recurring debates are highly appreciated - keep going!

Yes, there's also a title discussion that needs clarification.
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Thanks Gerri.
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The point I'm arguing is that I've notice people voting no on other user's contributions, just because its not a slip cover that was submitted. Usually they say something like, "This is not slipcover. Follow the rules." I'm not just talking about The Mist, but other contributions I have seen these last few months.


As some will know I often contribute covers for new releases. For my personal collection I only keep high res scans of the inner case, and I contribute these only if they are an improvement on current scans (ie often new releases have just an internet front image in dvdprofiler)
99% of voters understand this and vote yes to having a better set of scans 'for the time being', and await keepcase ones to be contributed at a later date which will then replace my scans. However 1% of voters comment as you say above.
I don't worry too much about the odd no vote with comments as you state, if my scans temporarily help 99% of the owners of a dvd, I'll keep sharing them.
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Thank you so much Gerri .
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