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| Registered: June 28, 2007 | | Posts: 2 |
| | Posted: | | | | Entering a new profile can be quite tedious work. Very often a similar profile already exists but with the wrong locality or language. I would like a way to use those existing profiles to avoid having to re-enter the whole cast and crew. The cast and crew are after all related to the film and not to the DVD release. Can anyone give me a hint on this? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 20,111 |
| | Posted: | | | | Just add that similar profile from the database into your collection, and then correct only the fields in that profile (locality/language, etc.) as needed. You should then of course always double check the credits against the actual film credits (and the new profile details) to be sure they're accurate before submitting. | | | | Corey |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
| | Posted: | | | | as Katatonia already indicated.
Before you contribute that profile. Do change the:
- Location
- UPC/EAN or Disc-ID
to reflect your DVD profile that is not in the Online DB.
Indicate in your contribution note the profile you used (EAN/UPC/Disc-id and location) and changes you made.
When you do changes to the profile, follow the Contribution Rules please.
And offcourse welcome to this forum. | | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Do NOT assume that that a "recycled" Profile is correct, oft times it will not be. Be sure a check the data against the disc before Contributing, paying special attention to Cast and Crew data martching the film credits and not something else.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
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| Registered: June 28, 2007 | | Posts: 2 |
| | Posted: | | | | Thank you for the quick responses. I was not aware that there was a change UPC/EAN before Giga Wizard sugested it. I think it will solve most of my problems. It does raise one question though:
If I alter for example an pretty complete UK release, change the locality, the UPC and other information that is different on my release, and an very incomplete contribution with the same UPC already exists in the database... What happens. Will there be two releases with the same UPC in the database or will my contribution be rejected, or the third alternative, will my contribution be accepted because it is the most complete one?
rgustbee |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
| | Posted: | | | | It al depends on the contribution. If you change the profile to the correct EAN/UPC/Disc-id and it does not exist in the online DB it will pass easier as there will be no voting.
If you contribute on an existing EAN/UPC/Disc-id there could be voting, this will mostly depend on the Region and locality you're contributing to R4 Australia has a growing number of users, but far less than USA.
PS. Don't forget to contribute a new cover. If not possible to contribute your cover. Don't include it for the contribution. (Rating or EAN/UPC won't match your locality mostly) | | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,293 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting rgustbee: Quote:
I would like a way to use those existing profiles to avoid having to re-enter the whole cast and crew. See all the above points but I'll add that if it's just cast and crew you want to re-use you can right click on the cast or crew of one profile, select "copy all cast/crew" then paste it into the new profile. I often find there are so many things to check when changing a profile this is actually quicker (and doesn't lead to so many mistakes)... as Skip has said, though, you should check against the disc whatever you do. | | | | It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting rgustbee: Quote:
Thank you for the quick responses. I was not aware that there was a change UPC/EAN before Giga Wizard sugested it. I think it will solve most of my problems. It does raise one question though:
If I alter for example an pretty complete UK release, change the locality, the UPC and other information that is different on my release, and an very incomplete contribution with the same UPC already exists in the database... What happens. Will there be two releases with the same UPC in the database or will my contribution be rejected, or the third alternative, will my contribution be accepted because it is the most complete one?
rgustbee You worry me, rgustbee. It is not more complete if it is does not comply with the Rules, the data could well be from 3rd party source; which is not allowed. Just be sure and check against the actual disc that you possess, especially for Cast and Crew. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
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| Registered: March 16, 2007 | | Posts: 278 |
| | Posted: | | | | I have to side with Skip on this one.
A good example of this is some of the Simpsons Season box sets. Someone had copied and pasted the cast and crew from the UK release into the US release, but there didn't appear to be any QA during the transition. Also, some of those profiles may be older, and may not have taken advantage of the [Credited As] feature, so new rows were added to the crew table for "James Hell Brooks" and the like (The Treehouse of Horror episodes are notorious for using alternate credits).
Also, in some of the older Simpsons series, David X. Cohen was credited as David S. Cohen ("S." is his real middle initial), but due to new WGA requirements, he changed his standard credit to use "X." after a certain date.
So, you may be saving yourself some work, but you're creating work for someone else down the line. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 1,777 |
| | Posted: | | | | Does this mean that somebody is going to clean out the brand new Bonnie and Clyde profile? You know, the one with all of the uncredited cast in it.   | | | | Last edited: by mdnitoil |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Yep, midnit.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,594 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
Yep, midnit.
Skip You say "Yep"...but you can't mean that you're going to do it, right? I mean...you no longer contribute so how is that going to clean up the profile in the database?  . | | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Exactly right, 8Ball, it ain't gonna me that does it.  I will neither allow such data into my local. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 2,366 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting mdnitoil: Quote:
Does this mean that somebody is going to clean out the brand new Bonnie and Clyde profile? You know, the one with all of the uncredited cast in it. Well, to anyone who wants to do that I say: Good luck, because you would have to prove they are not part of the movie just like you have to prove they are.  | | | Martin Zuidervliet
DVD Profiler Nederlands | | | | Last edited: by Daddy DVD |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
| | Posted: | | | | nothing in the rules about proving: Cast: Quote:
Uncredited actors may be listed in alphabetical order following all credited actors. Use the "Uncredited" checkbox to indicate these. Uncredited actors are not required entries. Crew: Quote:
Do not contribute uncredited crew members, as they can not be identified with (uncredited) as they are in the cast section. If you wish to see these uncredited crew members in your local database you can do so, but do not include them in contributions to the main database. | | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. | | | | Last edited: by ? |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,366 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rules: Quote:
Contribution Notes provide an explanation of your changes to other DVD Profiler users and Invelos for voting and deciding whether to accept your contribution, so make your notes useful and descriptive. | | | Martin Zuidervliet
DVD Profiler Nederlands |
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