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Common name for Kim McKamy/Kimberly Ashton Gere/Kimberly Patton/etc.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantW0m6at
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I was just looking at the credits for The One (Australian Superbit profile - 9317731018480) and noticed that the cast credit for this actress didn't match.  Looking around, it turns out she is both a pornstar and an actress in mainstream films.  I figured considering the scope of her work, and to allow others to address the common name issue in other profiles, I'd bring this one to the forums.

Running the aliases from TV.com through the CLT

"Kim McKamy" is credited in the following 26 titles (56 profiles):
"Kimberly Ashlyn Gere" is credited in the following 15 titles (17 profiles)
"Ashlyn Gere" is credited in the following 78 titles (80 profiles): **Most of these are "Hidden Title" aka "adult films"**
"Kimberly Patton" is credited in the following 19 titles (35 profiles):
"Kimberly Ashlyn McKamy" is credited in the following 0 titles (0 profiles):
"Ashlyn Gear" is credited in the following 0 titles (0 profiles):
"Ashley Gere" is credited in the following 0 titles (0 profiles):
"Ashyln Gere" is credited in the following 0 titles (0 profiles):
"Kimberly Marshall" is credited in the following 0 titles (0 profiles):
"Kim McKay" is credited in the following 7 titles (9 profiles): **Some, if not all, are someone else**
"Kim Patton" is credited in the following 0 titles (0 profiles):

In The One she is credited as Kimberly Patton (the current profile has her listed as Kim McKamy, as per IMDb... and much of the other cast data appears to have come from there too!).

Do we go with Ashlyn Gere?  What do people think?

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Ashlyn Gere fan club THIS SITE CONTAINS ADULT MATERIAL! (read nudity) - www-dot-ashlyngereonline-dot-com
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I'm not really sure at all about this one. I only own the few "legit" horror films she did in the 80's (all as Kim McKamy), and she was in Willard (2003) under the name Kimberly Patton.

I'm fairly certain she only used Ashlyn Gere in her XXX films, which of course way outnumber her legit films.
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The whole issue of Common Name for porn actors is a murky area, since those performers frequently work under many different names during their "careers."  That and the production companies are not known for paying much attention to consistency in spelling actor/actresses names. That is one reason I don't contribute any adult titles:  I use the common name concept in my local database to be the name by which I commonly recognize the performers.  So the name I use may not relate in ANY way to what appears in the CLT.

There are a few other porn actors and actresses who have done legit films.  Ginger Lynn (Allen) is probably the most successful (and I use that term advisedly) perfomer to have worked both in Adult and legit films.  Traci Lords has, too, but she's a special case since once outed as an underage porn actress, she never went back to her old ways.  Ginger Lynn has.  A few others: Jenna Jameson is trying to work both sides of the street; and Kim Carson who was in H.O.T.S. as Kimberly Cameron.  I must admit I have seen more actors from porn in theatrical films than actresses, which seems odd and maaybe sexist.
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My FIRST question is how do you know they are the same person. I presume that you will provide documentation of it with the Contribution. Right now you appear to be making a big league assumption, based on names that are not even remotely similar, in fact they are all over the map.


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My FIRST question is how do you know they are the same person. I presume that you will provide documentation of it with the Contribution.

Be careful what you ask for.  You like screenshots but in this case we might get some that will cause a few spit takes in the community.   
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I've provided links skip, and here's what you would have found had you looked:

Ashlyn Gere = base name
From fansite "born Kimberly Ashlyn McKamy" (also Wiki)
From fansite "billed as Kim McKamy"  (also Wiki)
From fansite "acted under the name Kimberly Patton..."
From fansite "She has also appeared under the Patton name in the films The One..."
From fansite "married to Marshall Patton" (supported by Wikipedia "acted under the name Kimberly Patton")
From fansite "credited as Kimberly Ashlyn Gere" (also Wikipedia)
Adult Film Database lists "Ashley Gere" as an alias

"Ashlyn Gear" ZERO profiles
"Kimberly Marshall" ZERO profiles
"Kim McKay" I've already stated that some, if not most are not her.

...and all were listed on TV.com (which I linked) and IMDb (which I didn't link).

We don't link "Kim McKay" unless people are sure, and the zeroes are irrelevant for now.
If anyone has access to the SAG database, apparently she's a member.
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They don't bother me. Tweeter I am not a prude. I want to know that they are they are the same person. It's bad enough when people make that assumption just because the names are similar. Of course if it is that big a concern the names could be left As Credited, or perhaps any name that might cause spit takes, assuming using screen shots.

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I didn't see that, Wom, good job.

Here's another one for you.

http://millennium-thisiswhoweare.net/cmeacg/actor_profile.php?name=Kimberley%20Patton

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I didn't see that, Wom, good job.

Here's another one for you.

http://millennium-thisiswhoweare.net/cmeacg/actor_profile.php?name=Kimberley%20Patton

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Thanks skip (for the link and the compliment).  I've already been there (and I can add that her "official site" isn't of any help).  I didn't set the fan site up as a link in the opening post, because I didn't want people accidentally going to it, even though it seems the most comprehensive and reliable.
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I'm fairly certain she only used Ashlyn Gere in her XXX films, which of course way outnumber her legit films.


I say her adult work is perfectly 'legit', especially as far as DVDP is concerned...
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I say her adult work is perfectly 'legit', especially as far as DVDP is concerned...


It's only an opinion.
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If she is the same person, as it seems, we use as Common Name the most frequently credited name, regardless of the genre of the movies.
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I say her adult work is perfectly 'legit', especially as far as DVDP is concerned...


It's only an opinion.

And "legit" takes fewer keystrokes than "non-Adult" or "non-Porno" or whatever.
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And "legit" takes fewer keystrokes than "non-Adult" or "non-Porno" or whatever.


That too.
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IMHO Ashlyn Gere was one of the few performers in adult films who know how to act in addition to being able/willing to "perform."  I way "was" because I haven't seen her in many recent releases.

BTW:  According to the Internet Adult Film Database (IAFD, the IMDb for the porno set) Ashlyn Gere worked between 1990-2003 (a fairly long career as porno performers go) starting when she was about 31 (rather old as porno actresses go) and used the following names:

Kim McKamy, Ashlyn Gear, Ashleyn Gere, Ashley Gere, Kim McKay, Kimberly Patton, Kim Patton, Kimberly Marshall, Kimberly Ashlyn Gere
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