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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDaddy DVD
Lost in Translation
Registered: March 14, 2007
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Should "*batteries not included" be capitalized to "*Batteries Not Included"?

Common Sense?
Martin Zuidervliet

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Not sure about this one, just out of interest what does the spine say Nick ??

And as an enjoyable aside, I found this that has nothing to do with the series or the thread, but I thought would prove popular as the title sounds the same   

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Correctly spelled and copied, it should read "The Comeback: The Complete FIRST ONLY Season"


No, it should read "The COMEBACK: The Complete FIRST ONLY Season"

But we have never done the lower and upper CAPS thing before so why start now...
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorninehours
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Quoting richierich:
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Not sure about this one, just out of interest what does the spine say Nick ??


The spine says "The Comeback" with Lisa Kudrow in smaller text above it as on the front.
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Looking at the pic and then seeing the comment about the foot covering up the word "FIRST", I changed my vote to not include that word (making it now lead by one vote).  It looks like the same as a strike-through, not a complete word, not really intended - and really, bad grammar.

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Registered: March 13, 2007
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Quoting 8ballMax:
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I agree. There is nothing in the rules that backs up Hal's assertion that capitalized words within a sentence must also be "standardized".


If in fact standard capitalization rules do not apply to Titles, then the following is a quick sampling of titles that need fixing:

Any Which Way You can
ARSENIC and OLD LACE
BELLS are RINGING
The BELLS of St. MARY's
The Best Years of OUR LIVES
BORN yesterday
BROADWAY MELODY of 1940
Bruce ALMIGHTY
BUNNY LAKE is MISSING
THE CURSE OF THE Cat People
CHARIOTS of FIRE
CHILDREN of PARADISE
divorce AMERICAN style
easy RideR
RETURN of the FLY
FRANKENSTEIN meets THE WOLF MAN
Frosty THE SNOWMAN


And that's not even considering those that are in all lower case.

Like I said, I don't really think we want to go here!
Hal
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Seconded.

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Why do you people choose to argue over something that has been working. I have my opinion on this, but i will keep it to myself. So you found an oddball...big deal...figure it out. We can't start re-writing the Rules everytime we find an oddball, for onre thing because we will find yet another oddball that may not fit under the current oddball, and pretty soon we have Rules that are unmaageable, incomprehensible and look like the the IRS Tax Code. Do we want that, I don't think so, we have already done enough damage, speaking for myself I realized that it was impossible for the Rules to address EVERY conceivable poossibility, because for one thing Hollywood is expert at throwing curves, unfortunately no one wants to listen to guidance.

So solve this oddball already.

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Why do you people choose to argue over something that has been working. I have my opinion on this, but i will keep it to myself. So you found an oddball...big deal...figure it out. We can't start re-writing the Rules everytime we find an oddball, for onre thing because we will find yet another oddball that may not fit under the current oddball, and pretty soon we have Rules that are unmaageable, incomprehensible and look like the the IRS Tax Code. Do we want that, I don't think so, we have already done enough damage, speaking for myself I realized that it was impossible for the Rules to address EVERY conceivable poossibility, because for one thing Hollywood is expert at throwing curves, unfortunately no one wants to listen to guidance.

So solve this oddball already.

Skip


We're NOT talking about rewriting the rules Skip...at least I'm not. What I AM talking about is CLARIFICATION to an ambiguous rule. I don't feel that that is too much to ask for...do you?
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We're NOT talking about rewriting the rules Skip...at least I'm not. What I AM talking about is CLARIFICATION to an ambiguous rule. I don't feel that that is too much to ask for...do you?


I agree.

Simply add "Check for standard capitalization of the Title and Edition for the DVD's locality"

(even though we've all known and done this for at least the past 8 years)
Hal
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Clarifications are no different, 8Ball. I look at the title that started this topic and I KNOW what the answer is, it isn't hard. But as I said....never mind. I have said this many times, in the three years since the Rules were published I have never had any problem with any single piece of data, at least until recently.

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t IS already dealt with in the Rules, or at the very least implied, there is even an example given. However, the title that started this doesn't fall into that category, Hal.

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Quoting skipnet50:
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t IS already dealt with in the Rules, or at the very least implied, there is even an example given. However, the title that started this doesn't fall into that category, Hal.

Skip


I'm only addressing the "capitalization" of the word "ONLY" issue.

I also see the word "First" in the Edition, whether it is implied to have been "stricken" or not, it is still there on the cover.  That's a different issue.
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IMO, how I read the rule is that when a title is in ALL CAPS we apply standard capitalization rules and we do NOT capitalize joining words. There is NO mention of what to do when a word or words within a title that is NOT in ALL CAPS are capitalized. Do we also "standardize" those words as well? The rule is unclear on this matter and I think Gerri should make an appearance here and lay down the law...so to speak

Do you really want to capitalise the following titles as credited?

a fish Called Wanda
WINGS of DESIRE
eASt is eASt
LES iNVASiON BARBARES
BREakING ThE WaVES
monsoon WEDDING
ERIK the VIKING
a zed & TWO NOUGHTS
A HarDd Day's NiGhT
What about BOB?
Lock SToCk & Two SmokinNg BarrEls
mURiel's Wedding

None of them is all caps. And then there are tons of all lower case titles. No, we have always used standard capitalisation except in some very rare cases.
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Funny I can't seem to find anything in the rules for Titles about standard capitalization rules.

for non English titles the rules say:
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For non-English titles, use capitalization rules common to the language of the title “Tout va bien” is correctly capitalized. “Tout Va Bien” is not

for English titles the rules say
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For English titles do not capitalize joining words such as "of", "the", "a", "in", etc. unless they are the first, last or only word in of the title. "Lord of the Rings" is correctly capitalized. "Lord Of The Rings" is not. "The Matrix Reloaded" is correctly capitalized. "The matrix reloaded" is not.

Those are the standard capitalisation rules.

actually those are a subset of the standard capitalization rules....

Actually, there is more than one variant of capitalisation rules defined for English titles. And joining word is not very well defined.
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Quoting Martin_Zuidervliet:
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Should "*batteries not included" be capitalized to "*Batteries Not Included"?

Common Sense?

Yes, definitely!
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